Sunday, 11 May 2008

Dinner Dates - Who should pay?

A lot of shit is talked in the seduction community about not buying girls drinks, flowers or taking them out for dinner. Period. Or, only taking them out for dinner after you've fucked them.

These extreme 'rules' were originally set in place for complete beginners who had no experience with women.

If guys paid for meals etc, that would lead to vulnerable men being taken advantage of, by a certain type of girl, and trying to 'buy acceptance' demonstrates lower value and women are not attracted to lower value men.

In essence, the reasoning behind not paying for dinner on dates is not to look supplicating or to look as if you're trying to win the girl over.

However, if you know you are the prize, and she knows that you are a secure, alpha male, then there is no harm in paying for the meal.

Whatever you do, if you do it from a position of strength, you will get away with anything.

Women want to be romanced and courted by a real man. A man who will protect them and provide for them and their children (at least that's the frame you should set - or attraction switch you should flick, for seduction geeks without necessarily fathering her children).

Be that real man.

If you can't afford to pay for the meal, don't take her out to a restaurant.

Expecting a woman to pay half is a turn off.

Don't risk looking like a cheap skate!

IceDragon

Arrogance

There are many guys out there who have achieved some understanding on the art of seduction, and, like a child with a new-found toy, they are naturally very excited about it, and like to show it off.

It is very easy to become arrogant and let your ego get out of control once you apply the powerful seduction techniques you have learned.

Once you get good at picking up women, you may feel a sense of power, maybe even cockiness and become overconfident in your abilities. It is vital not to fall into this trap, because you will ultimately do devastating harm to your inner game and destroy any realistic chance of reaching mastery. You will forever be stuck at the level you are, and remain a novice for the rest of your life.

Just because you have had some success, and fucked a few girls, doesn't give the right to deginerate other people.

Arrogance is a very ugly trait. It is very unattractive to quality women. It may appeal to sluts and party girls, but if you want to meet a woman of substance, you must rethink the personality you are projecting to the world, and work on developing your core identity.

Work on your inner game, and become a better person, and have all the success you want in life.
IceDragon

Technique to Guarantee a Phone-Number

On Tuesday, I went for a walk and decided to do approach some beautiful women.

I spoke to 6 girls, got a phone number from 5 of them.

Ok, I made it very easy for myself. I approached in the friendly, university area of Glasgow (full of hot, foreign student chicks), as opposed to the slightly difficult Glasgow City Centre, where people walk fast, look down, and go about their business, and this is what I did.

I walked, making eye-contact with everyone, and smiling.

Here is the important bit. I only opened the girls who smiled back.

The only girl I didn't close was one who didn't speak English, but I managed to close a hot Japanese girl called Fumi . . . *swoons* (called her today and left a message, she called me back, but I was on the phone to a friend, so didn't take the call)

Anyway, try this, make eye-contact, smile, open, then run your game as normal.

You will have no problems in getting the number, be very friendly, actually don't ask for the number, tell them to give it to you, and make it as natural as possible.

Have fun with this!

IceDragon

IceDragon's Two Week Challenge

Balancing the game with your life means making the game an integral part of your day to day life, and co-existing with the various parts which make up the individual you, so that there is no transition. It's not necessary, as you're totally accepting and completely congruent with what and who you are.

I would strongly advise against being 'Saturday night gamers'. By that I mean, walking around with your head down during the week, and putting on your 'PUA' persona at the weekends. That is neither congruent or natural. No wonder why some guys have problems with gaming, and then wonder what went wrong.

I'm not advising guys to become social robots either, or obsessive game freaks.

What I'm going to suggest is totally different, and will make a big difference in your success rates, so that by the time the weekend comes, and it's time to go clubbing, you're all warmed up and ready to go, and you've already number-closed 10 girls that week (it will happen!), because gaming is not something different to what you usually do. However, what I’m going to suggest goes way beyond and much deeper than gaming.

TWO THINGS TO DO BEFORE GOING TO BED AT NIGHT

1/ Compile a things to do list of 10 things you want to do by the end of the following day (the sense of achievement the following night will astonish you)

2/ Read out 10 affirmations (you can think of 10 relevant to you)

TEN THINGS TO DO BEFORE LEAVING YOUR HOUSE IN THE MORNING

Ok, second step. Before you leave the house in the morning, each and every day, ensure you do the following 10 things.

1/ Shower & Shave
2/ Brush & floss
3/ Deodorant and Fragrance
4/ Choose your clothes carefully, and don't just throw anything on
5/ Have breakfast (VERY important)
6/ Diaphragmatic breathing exercises (this will focus your mind)
7/ Vocal projection exercises (if you don't know what these are, give one of the advanced guys on this lair a call, and they will go over some exercises over the phone)
8/ Read 10 affirmations aloud (you can think of some!)
9/ Stretch your body!
10/ Read over the list you made last night

Leave your house earlier than you usually would, because that would account for any delays en-route. Also, if you start your day in a calm, relaxing manner, the rest of your day will be fantastic, and that will spill onto the following day, and so forth.

Make a point of smiling and making eye contact at everyone you see. This is crucial! Not only at hbs, but everyone, ugs, guys, everyone.

Walk with an upright posture, and with your head up. Think of your favourite song, as you’re walking down the street. According to Anthony Robbins, your posture and demeanour sets your mood.

Talk to as many people as you can. Tell them jokes, funny stories, ask them how they are. Whatever you can think of. Try to talk to 10 strangers a day. That’s not a lot.

Do not deliberately try to find hbs to game. They will find you. I promise. I don't know how or where they will come from, but they will. They will be attracted to your energy and what you put out into the world. The vibes you give out will be totally different from any other guy they will meet.

If you do these things for two weeks, you will see an amazing difference. I’m saying two weeks for a reason, because this is the time it takes for any changes to take effect. Don’t ask me why, it’s just the way it is.

Naturally, as the weeks and months progress, your results will begin to snowball and accumulate, and you won’t be able to recognise what things were like before.

You will begin to attract nice things into your life (hbs, friends, success, happiness). Whatever you give out to the world, that’s what you attract.

Do this two week exercise and report back on the results!

IceDragon
We all know the basic theory, pre-selection is a powerful attraction switch. In the past, I have rammed this message through your heads over and over.

However, it is time to take pre-selection to a new leve. When gaming a girl, in set or one to one, mention one of these two things: 1/ You have a CURRENT girlfriend, 2/ You are CURRENTLY seeing other girls and insinuate that if she is with you, she will not be exclusive. Of course, if she proves herself in due course, she may become exclusive.

Girls will be more eager to give you their numbers, and will actually push you for a day 2, creating less work for you.

WOMEN WANT WHAT THEY CAN'T HAVE.

It's all very well saying that you previously dated a hot girl, and now have a vacancy for another girl in your life, but mention that you are CURRENTLY attached as opposed to PREVIOUSLY having dated a hot stripper from Las Vegas, and the IOIs will come flying. I know that most of you guys are good enough to get IOIs without saying this, and get the phone number and date easily, but if you take this advice, you will get what you want faster, and with less effort. Isn't this what we want? To refine and sharpen our game?

I actually experimented one step further, and told a girl about the community, and shared some techniques. She doesn't stop phoning me . . . I then told her `it's not easy to get a meeting with a guy like me' . . . she said `I'm sure you can find some time, as I would be so lucky', I then said `Actually, I would be the lucky one to spend time with a woman like you' . . . (emotional push pull), then she said in a stunned voice, `really? do you still have the photo you took of me in November Café, I've still got yours'. I then said `yeah, I put it on Crimewatch'. Even though I had told her about Push Pull, she still fell for it!

I don't recommend you go as far as this, telling a girl about the community, as it was purely experimental, but you get the picture.

It sticks a middle finger up at social conditioning, but IT WORKS. Women want what they can't have. I thought that I knew this, and I did use it to an extent, but not to the powerful extent that could have. I have discovered this in the past couple of weeks. Sure, I thought I knew this months ago, but ONLY NOW I have truly understood it, right to my very core, after I applied this. And the results have been staggering.

Of course, you need to use the basic techniques, congruency, body language and standard game as a foundation, all I'm saying is, throw in this nuclear bomb, and see the results for yourself. I really want all you guys to experience what I've experienced. It's scary to find out that girls really are sexual predators.

IceDragon

Non-Verbal Communication

Inter-human communication can be divided into two clear levels, verbal and non-verbal. Although verbal communication is widely acknowledged, and there is much more awareness of it, non-verbal is often referred to as the true, base level of communications. Our primitive ancestors used this system long before complex languages had developed, even long before mankind started grunting and groaning. Non verbal communication reveals the true feelings of a person, because this system of communication is ingrained into the human psyche, through millions of years of evolution.

Modern man uses non-verbal communication as an alternative, or an accompaniment to the spoken word. Sometimes an expression can say much more than a word can. For example, a child who has stolen sweets or damaged the family car will have a guilty look on his face. Constant fidgeting, touching the face, looking down or across the room, not maintaining eye contact with the parent. The look can somewhat resemble that of a puppy who has just created a puddle. When someone is frightened, his facial muscles, especially around the mouth tend to pull back. Now, if you take the smile, which is a universally recognised expression of friendliness, you will notice that it is similar to the ‘fear’ reaction. When a person smiles, he makes the other person feel at ease, because sub-consciously, he realises that if the person is afraid, therefore he cannot be a threat. The smile is widely used in the courting ritual. We share this trait with many great apes, especially our closest relative, the chimpanzee. Incidentally, the genetic difference in dna between humans and chimpanzees is approximately 1%.

Different facial components signify different responses, for example, if someone has their jaw thrust forward, they could be self-confident, arrogant, extremely alert or at ease. An angry person can be distinguished by the way he stares, the colour of his cheeks, and a clenched jaw. Facial muscles tightly drawn, and grinding teeth may signify the person is nervous or stressed.

Apart from facial expressions, the hands can also tell a great deal about the person. If a person is hunched, or walks with a stoop, despite him having to spinal deficiencies, he is deemed to be a reclusive, anti-social person. He may have a troubled life, and this can show onto the way he walks or carries himself. The subconscious recognises this, and creates a vicious circle, where his body language becomes more and more pathetic. If a person has all his limbs uncrossed, and his hands visible and palms open, this can show that the person is sincere. These actions can be faked by politicians, to appear more friendly and trustworthy to the electorate. In saying that, although the body actions can be faked to an extent, they facial expressions will always give the game away, stressed, furrowed brows, a grimaced mouth, squinted eyes can reveal that all may not be as it seems within the person.

Crossing the arms in front of oneself may signify that the person is not sure of himself, or feels vulnerable and defensive. Therefore the crossed arms are protecting the sensitive internal organs, heart, spleen, liver, lungs etc. It is possible that man may have had this response programmed, somehow this natural protective action survived as a gene, through millions of years. Now, contrast this with a school-teacher, a powerful baron, or a factory manager. He will walk about his domain with his hands crossed behind his back, head up, chest out, shoulders back and spine arched straight. This is a signal of authority and power, that he has nothing to fear from anyone, and does not feel threatened. Compare the two types of opposing Non Verbal Communication.


Non Verbal Communication can be divided into three main areas, which are Kinesics, Proxemics and Para-Linguistics. Kinesics involve facial expressions such as smiles, frowns, narrowed eyes, transmitting anger, frustration, friendliness, disbelief, etc. Gestures such as pointing towards someone, giving a thumbs up sign, shaking the head, etc. Movements, including pacing up and down a room, finger-drumming as to indicate boredom, transmitting impatience or relaxation.

Proxemics include physical contact, shaking hands with someone, prodding someone with a finger in a provocative way, clapping someone on the back as if to congratulate, transmitting greetings, insistence or friendship. Positioning also comes under this category, keeping a respectful distance, for example, if walking down a quiet street and a woman is walking the same direction, it would be wise for the man to walk across the other side of the road, so that the woman doesn’t feel threatened. Also posture, standing straight and erect, lounging, sitting hunched up, leaning forward, spread across a chair, transmitting alertness and care, self-confidence, nervousness or ease.

Para-Linguistics are feedback sounds of surprise, agreement, annoyance or impatience. ‘Uh uh, whew!, oops!, tsk, tut tut, etc.

Human relations skills and effective working requires a finely tuned awareness of Non-verbal communication. It can help a person to quickly read a situation and to prevent problems from occurring. Nightclub stewards for example need to understand the intricacies of NVC as the safety of the clients depends on their intuition. For example, if a steward is confronted by a person who shows arrogance at the door, sneering, and staring at other people in the crowd, there is a very high chance that the person is looking for violence, and once he has consumed alcohol in the club, it is very likely he will hurt someone. If the steward is alert, he will recognise the signs and not let the person in. If the steward is highly experienced, he will use NVC of his own to send a subconscious signal to the aggressor to back away. He will look into his eyes, and try not to show any outward signs of adrenaline or emotional excess, which can be misinterpreted as fear. This shows that the ability to read body language and NVC can save lives, prevent conflict and ensure success when dealing with other people.

Non-verbal communication is a vital aspect of society and should be studied and observed as the benefits to one’s personal life and career can be immense. Learning to liase with colleagues at work, reading a spouse’s mood can prevent family trouble and arguments. Also, if you discipline your kids, but your body actions are not in synchronisation with your words, the child may feel as if you are hesitant or unsure, and may become unruly. If on the other hand, you can adopt a strong body pose and send powerful signals, the child will know that you are serious, and will obey your instructions, therefore becoming a well-rounded and happy person. If you ever have the misfortune to enter into a potentially violent situation in the street or in the pub, you may have the skills to diffuse the situation, before it escalates into physical violence, which can cause serious injury or even death.

Relating to pickup, non-verbal communication is essential, as the first impressions are made non verbally. If you see a woman you like in a bar for instance, it is important to first make eye contact, then smile to show you’re not a threat, then, by using an open, and confident posture, you display your body from different angles, so that your potential mate can size you up. Many psychologists say that when entering a room where a party is held, it is advisable to stand at the doorway for four seconds before entering, so that all the potential mates can check you out, and vice versa.

Non-verbal communication is the lifeblood and essence of mankind. As it was invented long before spoken language, it is worthwhile looking into it in a deeper way, so that the quality of life, and our relationships with our fellow man can be enriched and enhanced.

IceDragon

Logical Apes?

The human being tends to think of himself as a rational, logical entity.

That is not so. A humans is the most emotional creature there is. Man lets his subconscious rule his conscious mind, after all, 90% of the decisions are made by the subconscious mind.

Think about it. People fall in love with people who are totally different from them. While the conscious mind would say 'hey, what are you doing here?', the subconscious is way more powerful. A guy I know fell madly in love with an ageing, chain smoking single mother. He just couldn't explain it. The same with phobias. Why do some people recoil in fear of spiders? Logically, the little critters can't harm us, everyone knows that. But, the subconscious says 'keep away, it'll do bad things to you.

Beliefs, religions are not logical. Think of cults, David Koresh, the Moonies and Kabbala. Irrational belief is required. If the cult requires suicide, bet you the followers would do it.

What is the biggest financial decision a person will ever make? Buying a home. Is it made on logic? Wrong! It's always an emotional decision. I was watching this home makeover program on tv, this couple were trying to sell a house in a certain area, and despite being on the market for 8 months, it didn't sell, even though other houses in the same are sold like hotcakes. The problem was that the interior was too garish, and the house was cluttered. The makeover team came in and re-painted the walls, re-carpeted using neutral colours, and de-cluttered the house.

Instead of selling the house for $155,000, it sold for $175,000 , even though only $2,500 was spent on furnishing it!!!

If the buyers had thought logically, they would have thought 'This house has been on the market for 8 months, the sellers will be desperate. I'll offer $145,000, re-decorate it the way I want rather that the way the make-over team wants. The value will go up by $30,000!!!! I can take all the clutter and hold a garage sale, making even more profit.'

But, people are emotional creatures.

So, if the biggest financial decision of a person's life is based on emotions, what chance do all the other, smaller decisions have???

How does this relate to seduction? Well, it further reinforces the line of thought that attraction is not a choice, and women can be successfully seduced EVERY TIME if the seduction artists can dictate and direct their emotions. Like everything else in life, seduction is not logical! It is whatever we make the woman believe it is.

IceDragon
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